WIKIMEDIA ASIA MEETING August 10, 2013 17:45 - 19:10 JOIN THE ASIAN CHAPTERS MAILING LIST! https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters == Attendees == ===From Bangladesh=== * Tanvir Rahman [[User:Wikitanvir]] // Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh, Affiliations Committee ===From the Philippines=== * [[User:Sky Harbor|Josh Lim]] (WMPH; AffCom) * [[User:seav|Eugene Villar]] (WMPH) * [[User:Exec8|Butch Bustria]] (WMPH) ===From Australia== * [[User:John Vandenberg]] * [[User:Lankiveil]] * [[User:Chuq]] * [[User:Hawkeye7]] === from Japan === * [[User:Takot]] * [[User:Kzhr]] * [[User:Miya]] * [[User:Miya.m]] * [[User:akaniji]] * [[User:whym]] === from Korea === * [[User:Ryuch]] * [[User:Piotrus]] == from Singapore == * [[User:Smuconlaw]] === from Taiwan == * [[User:Alexsh|Alex Lin]] * [[User:Htchien|Ted Chien]] * [[User:Shangkuanlc|Shang Kuan Liang-chih]] === from Hong Kong === * [[User:SusanLai | Rover Wong ]] * [[User:SoHome | SoHome Jacaranda (????)]] /* Wikipe-tan Cosplayer #4 :-P*/ * [[User:Computor | Francis]] * [[User:????]] === from Macau === * [[User:sdee]] === from Nepal === * [[User:Ganesh Paudel]] === from India === * [[User:Psubhashish]], Access To Knowledge Program, Centre for Internet and Society, India * [[User:Visdaviva]] T. Vishnu Vardhan * [[User:jayantanth]] Jayanta Nath === from PR China === * [[User:Addis Wang]] * [[User:????l]] * [[User:??|Ranyv]] * [[User:EnSitu]] * [[User:EnderViking]] * [[User:JuneAugust]] * [[User:fantasticfears]] * [[User:wwbread]] * [[User:Gawainus]] * [[User:Gzdavidwong]] * [[User:Yhz1221]] * [[User:??]] === from Cambodia === * [[User:??????????]] (Vantharith), Khmer Wikipedia ===From Indonesia=== * [[User:Crisco 1492]] ===From Israel=== * [[User:Deror avi]] ===From Myanmar=== * [[User:Hteink.min]] ===From the WMF=== * [[User:Ijon|Asaf Bartov]] == Minutes == === History === * First organized by WMHK in 2010 ** Founding members: see the list ** Discussed in Berlin, and founded in Gda?sk in 2010 * Page on Meta *Nothing has really happened since then === Motives === http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Asia_Project * Asaf's comments on Wikimedia Asia: Do something ! http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asian_Chapters_Meeting Francis (HK): Chinese Wikipedia conference [WMHK, WMTW, Chinese Wikipedians?] Josh (PH): Conference is good. But need to set up some goals for the conference. What should we get from the conference? John (AU): Chinese representation should add up Francis (HK): Foundation focused on India, bring users up will be least controversial. Butch (PH): Start from simple thing. I am interest in articles of creating Chinese provinces, or major roads. Make those into different language. Database establishing programs. Craig (AU): Agree. Start from easy tasks, sth. easy and achievable. Then we can tackle something more difficult. Josh (PH): What does we want from this? Francis(:Non political, but easy said then done really. Josh (PH): Agree topics on non-political ====What do we want to achieve?==== *Non-political *Shangkuanlc(TW): Cultural heritage (accumulation of free knowledge; WLM/Wiki Loves Art) **Asian cultures *Best practices for projects *Conan (HK): Books of asian countries in public domain into Wikisource. e.g. Vietnamese books into Chinese Wikisource. China & India's books. **John (AU): Texts every Wikisource should have *Shangkuanlc (TW): Open data in goverment of each countries. *Maung (MM): Make it easier to contribute. *Ganesh (NE): Tried to contribute an article in the English Wikipedia about a famous but deceased person using old books. [Notability] *Vantharith (KH): A central calendar of events (BarCamp, conferences, etc.) and a list of skills *Wikipedia Roadshow **Technical challenge: difficult to translate into other languages. Most of Asian countries have their own characters. Sometimes have difficulties: e.g. VisualEditor does not work properly; the PDF book creator does not work properly ** push foundation to do sth. about this. *** Jack (SG): VisualEditor is still in Beta. Just a time problem. **** Craig (AU): Help the foundation about Visual Editor. ****Conan (HK): translation of VE for zh-hans/jp have been done. Such problems (with relations with compatibility of Asian script fonts) can be overcomed under our solidarity. Francis(HK):We should show solidarity Jack: Francis said "pressure group" with the Foundation. The group can serve as an intermediary in content disputes. Cheol (KR): Rendering; beta testing team for Asian languages Deror (IL): Bug Amir Aharoni (bald guy with a big beard) for interface issues Vishnu (IN): It is important that we first compile a list and do priority grading of the issues. I do not think bugging a single person will help. There are clear steps listed out to resolve bugs on Meta. Tanvir (BD): Contact Tomasz about PDF book creator Vishnu (IN): Is there a link to the filed bug about this issue? Would be useful to have it. Shangkuanlc (TW): We should broaden the discussion: not just the features, but what functions of Wikipedia can do. *We want more users *Friendlier environment for editors *Training documents (i.e. Education Program) *Teahouse Maung (MM): Mobile editing difficult to contribute on Mobile phones. Gawainus (CN): In a Guangzhou meeting only 1 girl showed up (gender gap) ====Broad things that we want==== *Jack (SG): Advocacy, sharing of best practices *Chris (ID): Commons (we have been focusing on issues about text) *Francis (HK): Wikimedia Asia "website", data/status sheet, Asian advisory board (no competition) *Vishnu (IN): What can we do collectively? (government funding, advocacy networks, etc.) Visdaviva:cultural level, educational level... Visdaviva:finances, resources, projects on Wikipedia...that could be multilingual Visdaviva:How to tap into these resources? Rather than technical issues. Asaf: We don't meet between Wikimania and the Wikimedia Conference (Chapter Conference) sharing resources, sharing programs Butch (PH): We have social media Conan (HK): Manpower -> let's start small Eugene (PH): An "Asian" Wikipedia Signpost (newsletter) -> monthly? quarterly? **Tanvir: can we sustain this? Asaf: most of us don't share best practices -> we should do common projects (an Asian content exchange program?) ==== 3 items we are going to do in the following 3 months ==== *Content exchange, **Randomizer/lottery challenge of certain article. *Visual Editor, **Cheol(KR): report on asian languages. the testing pool. **Tanvir(BD): It's already there. Find the box and the link there. **Cherol(KR): Bankpool & test group for visual editor? Spreadsheet for bug input. **Craig(AU): Doing the testing with the team. **Asaf: People complaing on Wiki needs to be translated for WMF to hear. BugZilla link. *Chapter exchange, **Asaf wants to see the translation! People only speak in English will help other language to paste. **Piotrus(Poland/KR) want to volunteer. Get people onto front page. === Keep in Touch === *We are on Facebook! **https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikimedia.asia *Asian Chapters Mailing List: **https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters **Tanvir: Let's write something on the mailing list for 100 words. If I see enough people there, then we can do something together. Craig (AU): Rename the mailing list to remove the word "chapters"? **??(??):Rename the mailing list / Open the archive but close the mailing list. *Francis(HK):Every country a Go To Person === Wikimedia Asia Project on Meta === http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project